Get tips and tricks on how to supercharge your sales in this episode of the Business & Life Conversations Podcast with my guest Renee from Share Your Passion. Renee is going to talk us through the Signature System – what is it and what are its benefits. She will also explain how having this system can supercharge your sales and how you can start to create your own signature system for your business. Listen in on this brilliant episode and start taking steps towards supercharging your sales today!
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ANGELA: :
You’re listening to the Business and Life Conversations Podcast with Angela Henderson, Episode 70.
Hey there, you’re listening to the Business and Life Conversations Podcast. My name is Angela Henderson and on this show, we talk about improving your business, life or both. By having amazing and rich conversations with brilliant guests who will inspire you and who will give you tips and tricks to help you grow both in life and in business.
Well, hey there and welcome back to another episode of the Business and Life Conversations Podcast. I’m your host, Angela, from Angela Henderson Consulting where I am a Business Consultant helping women in business to develop the foundational framework and strategy they need to grow sustainable and profitable businesses.
Now, supercharging your sales is something we all want to be able to do. And I am excited to have Renée from Share Your Passion as my guest today on the podcast as she is going to share with us exactly that: supercharging your sales. She’s also going to be talking to us really in-depth about what is a signature system, what are the key benefits of having a signature system for your business, how does having a signature system supercharge your sales and how do business owners start to create their very own signature system? So buckle in because today is going to be a brilliant episode.
But before we jump into the episode, I just want to let you know that this particular episode is sponsored by my new Business Masterclass, The Ultimate 4-Step Framework for Creating a Sustainable and Profitable Business. In my 60-minute jam-packed Masterclass, you’re going to have the opportunity to learn my signature four-step framework for creating a sustainable and profitable business without sacrificing time with your kids, without the overwhelm or without wasting any more cash. I’m also going to dig deep about the four big business mistakes that everyone in business makes and why they’re keeping you from growing your sustainable and profitable business. And lastly, I’m going to talk about what is working for businesses now and why most of what is being taught about growing a business is outdated and wrong. You can sign up for my on-demand Business Masterclass by simply heading to bit.ly/masterclasswithangelahenderson. And again, I will have this link in the show notes for you guys to be able to click on later on over at angelahenderson.com.au.
But let’s buckle in for an amazing episode. Welcome to the show, Renée.
RENÉE:
Thank you so much for having me, Angela. It’s so good to be here.
ANGELA:
Yes, it is. It’s always lovely to reconnect with people in the podcast that I’ve hung out with in person especially so recently. We just hang out down at Elle Roberts event in Adelaide, which is fantastic to spend some time with you.
RENÉE:
Yes. That’s such a great job with the Artful Business Conference, it’s a beautiful event.
ANGELA:
It’s a beautiful event and it’s just like, the women are beautiful. Like, everything about it has this really kind of calm Zen to it and Elle is just a beautiful person also. So it’s always great to reconnect with people on the podcast. Now, you’ve been doing your national tour and one of the things that I like to do with my guest before we really jump in to the nitty-gritty, which today we’re going to be talking about how you supercharge your sales with a signature system is I always like to ask a bit of a fun question. And since you do your tour for your business around Australia, my question that I’d like to start with is what is your all-time favourite city in Australia?
RENÉE:
OH.
ANGELA:
But not even city; I’ll take that back. Just place.
RENÉE:
Just place.
ANGELA:
You would have seen a lot. Like, I know you’re on national tour. But I guess, because you’ve done that, you’ve probably had the opportunity to see other things that maybe others haven’t or maybe you haven’t; I don’t know. But tell us a little bit; like, what’s your little favourite go-to spot in Australia that you really, really just love?
RENÉE:
Well, this is probably not going to be the answer you’re looking for, Angela, but I’m going to just be brutally honest because that’s all I can be.
ANGELA:
That’s all you can be.
RENÉE:
Anj, you know what? On national tour, I don’t actually get to really experience much of any location.
ANGELA:
Sure.
RENÉE:
Besides the inside of my Airbnb Hotel.
ANGELA:
Yes.
RENÉE:
And the venue of the events. I just find; because I am a parent, I really try and restrict how much time I’m away, when I’m on tour so that I’ve kind of like fly in, check in to wherever I’m going, I go to the venue for my speaking gig for that night, then I’ll get back to my Airbnb, probably do Uber Eats because I can’t be bothered without biting some food. And then, I’ll get up the next morning, run my half-day workshop, and then I have some chat that afternoon with some clients I’ve met and then I’ll fly to the next place. And so, I don’t think I can really give a fair assessment of any location based on that experience.
ANGELA:
Okay, so let’s just then take out the national tour situation. What would you say is still your go-to place in Australia that you love?
RENÉE:
I’d probably say Byron Bay and that’s probably because my best friend moved up there and I love just going to hang out with her and just chilling and it’s always lovely and we just go and sitting on vegan cafes and eat food and hang out. That’s probably; yes.
ANGELA:
That’s your favourite spot?
RENÉE:
Yes.
ANGELA:
And listen, Byron Bay, for those that haven’t been, it is, it’s beautiful. I know I’ve got international listeners but this is beautiful gem place, very; I mean, how do you describe it? It’s scenic.
RENÉE:
It’s on the coast of northern in New South Wales. Like, you can see the whales passing by on the beach.
ANGELA:
It is and it’s becoming like an iconic spot, you could say. It still isn’t 100% tourist trap yet, but I would say, like again, it’s getting more and more popular. But it is, it’s a very elegant spot to go to. So now, alright, obviously, people might go, “Okay, you’re talking about this national tour.” Can you tell everyone a little bit about you, Renée, and what you’ve been up to in your day-to-day with your business?
RENÉE:
Yes. Sure. So I have been in business for 19 years and what I’d like to call my zone of genius, which I encourage my clients to focus on; my zone of genius is taking what is complex and making it clear and simple. And my unique way of doing that is I extract all the knowledge out of someone’s head and I turn it into visual models. And that’s essentially, that’s all I do in my business now and it’s what makes it so much easier for me to work only during school hours, during school terms because I’m just efficient at only doing the work that I love with people I love working with and the way that I love working. And that’s kind of; I’m ticking all the boxes there and doing work that fits with my lifestyle.
ANGELA:
And so again, I guess, and that’s kind of; we’ll go really into what we’re going to be talking about today then, is that supercharge your sales with a signature system. So for those people out there who are going, “Okay. Visual tools, visual systems,” can you tell us just a little bit about when you; I guess I want the listeners to be able to understand what that looks like? So can you tell us, I guess, what your definition of a signature system is and what are the bits and pieces inside of that?
RENÉE:
Yes. Cool. Okay. So generally, when I say signature system, I’m just referring to your unique methodology for working with clients. So essentially, if you have an expert-based business or a service-based business, when you’re providing a service to your client, you’re helping them go from something that they don’t love; they’ve got some little problem or challenge and they want a result or outcome, right? We’re going from something crap to something good, right? We’re helping them make a transition in whatever type of service-based business we have. That’s essentially what we’re doing. We’re taking our clients from crap to good.
And generally, over time, we find our own ways of making that transition with our clients, of helping them get there efficiently, effectively. And we come up with our own way of getting them there and having guaranteed results, essentially; we get proven results if we follow a certain process, right? And turning it into a signature system is essentially taking what we’ve been innately doing with our clients and explicitly putting it into a structure; a structure that then we put, we make visuals.
So it’s not just like; you could have a signature system that’s just a list of like these are my 7 steps in bullet points; these are my 7 steps to get better sales in your business and you could have 7-step process in a list. But if you turn that into a visual model, which is what I love to do, then, imagine that you’ve got a model that’s got a picture with 7 arrows moving from left to right and each one of those; inside each one of those arrows is one of your steps. And so that way, it’s like a visual representation of that 7-step process. And you can see that it moves from left to right so you can see it as a linear process. It’s like chronological order and it helps to kind of give more tangibility to the process itself.
And you can have different shapes for different purposes and there are four different types of models and all that sort of stuff. But you let me know if you want me to go into more detail.
ANGELA:
Yes. So really, so essentially, what you’re saying is you’re taking what people would potentially be talking to on a sales call or in an email. But instead, because, again, we know people learn differently, people are visual learners, auditory learners; whatever that is. So you’re saying is in addition to being able to talk about it and have those words, you’re putting your signature system as about creating those visual tools that are necessary to really, I guess, if we’re talking about it, supercharge your sales. Because you’re saying, without that signature system, and without those visual representations, it’s going to be very limited, your selling capacity.
RENÉE:
Well, I think limited in a sense. Like, I have absolutely built a one-on-one service-based business to full capacity without visual models. So I think if we’re building; if we have a very small number of clients, we don’t need to attract the masses, I think you can build a business like that through word of mouth and referrals. And you don’t necessarily need all these fancy and intellectual property or collateral to back you up and to prove your credibility.
But when you want to kind of scale-up and grow and actually attract more people who don’t necessarily know you personally or aren’t getting a personal recommendation from someone that you already know, then, we need something else to build that know, like and trust factor and the visual models can really add a lot of weight to your credibility and authority because they can see what it is that you know. It’s like, when it’s locked inside our brains, people can’t see it.
ANGELA:
Right.
RENÉE:
They’ve got no access to it except what you verbally give them. But when you put it into a visual model, it makes it visible, it makes a tangible, and then, it makes a credible, right? So just; it ticks so many boxes and that’s how we get cut through; we cut through the overwhelm and the chaos. Because often what we’re teaching, Angela, it’s complex. Like, what you know, the things that you know, and your experience and your knowledge is like; the web inside your brain is so complex. There is so much in there and to try and communicate that can come out like a knowledge vomit. We don’t want to kill our audiences with that.
ANGELA:
And also, like you said, a lot of times in serviced-based business, and even again, I would even probably go e-commerce, it is that if you got so many choices and there’s so much knowledge and people are already in a state of overwhelm about what to buy, what do I need, etc. that like you said, I can only assume that the visual tools, and again, I’ve got a few of my own so I completely agree with what your systems are, is that again, like you said, you’re cutting through things. And those people that don’t want to read the words can get it and they’re like, “Yes, I’m just going to look at this and I can see the process.” But also, would you say that some of the benefits there are is that people can almost see where they’re at in a process also and where; in moving them from say, their hell to their heaven?
RENÉE:
Yes. Totally. So, I like that from their hell to their heaven; that’s a good one because I normally; I might throw in a few swears but I’m keeping it clean for you today.
ANGELA:
No, it’s alright. No, no, no, no. There’s been more than a few F-bomb strap on the podcast. So yes, my listeners are very used to it. [Crosstalk 00:12:00]. But something slips, it’s okay. So don’t worry about that.
RENÉE:
Okay, great. So yes, exactly, we’re taking our client from shit to good, right? Well, there are four different types of models and then maybe if I can kind of explain that; you happy for me to do that?
ANGELA:
Yes.
RENÉE:
Awesome; because they each have a different purpose and what you’re talking about is almost; so the first type of model is the Success Model, right? And actually, I’m going to give you a client. So he is a thing because with my system, here’s four types of models. I’ve got an acronym to help everyone remember these four models that you need to make a complete set in your signature system. And the acronym is SEXY.
ANGELA:
I like it. SEXY.
RENÉE:
SEXY. Yes. So the S stands for Success and the Success Model is all about what are the key ingredients that your clients need to master for success. And so, what you need to do to create this model for yourself and your business is to first understand who’s my ideal client? What does success look like for them? And what are all the things; if you kind of then imagine, if success is a cake, what are all the ingredients I need to put into that cake to make it successful?
ANGELA:
Sure.
RENÉE:
And so, in that Success Model, we’re looking at what are the ingredients for success?
ANGELA:
Yes.
RENÉE:
And that’s our first model. The second model is your Educate Model. And so, this is almost like the method for making the cake because this is your step-by-step process. This is how do we get our clients from shit to good. Put all our actions in the doing. So we definitely want to be using verbs when we’re creating our Educate Model and this is just a step-by-step process.
ANGELA:
Yes.
RENÉE:
So we do this and then we do this and then we do this and then we do this. So that’s your Educate Model. The third model is the Excite Model; and yes, I’ve used creative license there, because I’m saying that’s your X but that’s what we’re going with.
ANGELA:
Yes.
RENÉE:
The Excite Model; this one here is a really great model because it helps you to tell a story. And we can use this to tell a hero’s journey-type story, so you get from zero to hero-type scenario. And ideally, we tell this in first person. It’s like, “Well, this is my story,” and we show that story and we show the stages in that story graphically and visually; and often the shapes we use for that will be something that’s moving up and it’s showing momentum so that we can see that there’s progress.
And as we kind of use that Excite Model to tell our story and describe the experience and the emotion behind it, it becomes an inspiration and motivation to our ideal clients because they’ll do a self-assessment. They’ll look at that story and they’ll go, “OH.” Say it’s a 5-stage process, they’ll look at that and go, “Oh, I’m at stage 3 there. I can see I’m at stage 3 and I really want to get to stage 5.”
ANGELA:
Sure.
RENÉE:
And this person who’s presenting this model, they’ve been there and done that. They know how to do that; this is what they teach. “Wow. This is the ideal person for me to work with, to close that gap and get from stage 3 to stage 5 as fast as possible.”
ANGELA:
That makes sense.
RENÉE:
Yes. And then, the final model is the Yes Model and that’s all about having your clients saying “YES” to working with you and we do that by showing the benefits. So that’s all about just summarizing very, very clearly and graphically what are the benefits of working with you. And then, those four models together, you can use them to tell a story and it really is quite a remarkable system when you pull it all together.
ANGELA:
And like you said, sometimes again, like that example you used, every business person will be in a different part of that story. But if they can see them where they are and how they’re going to move them, ultimately, you’re going to convert clients at a greater speed.
RENÉE:
Yes. And that is the cool thing about it, Angela, where, is that I never feel like I’m selling when I’m using my models because the way that they’re designed is that you are always educating and teaching when you are sharing these models. And it’s through the education, it’s through the teaching that your audience will self-select and you’ll attract people and you won’t have to chase them. And that’s what I really, really love is your audience is saying, “Hell, yes,” to working with you without you having to actually do anything.
ANGELA:
So if you’ve got this system that you’ve called the SEXY system and that’s got those four main components; the Success Model, the Educate Model, the Excite Model and the Yes Model.
RENÉE:
Yes.
ANGELA:
What would you say are the primary benefits for businesses to have the signature system?
RENÉE:
Well, the first one, we’ve kind of already touched on it; just getting that cut through. But the cut through kind of is internal and external. It cuts through because I feel like even 19 years in business, it’s so easy for us to get caught up in our own thoughts, in our own complexity because we know so much stuff. So first, we get that internal cut through, we get that clarity of, “Okay, this is actually what I do.”
ANGELA:
Yes.
RENÉE:
“This is how I clearly articulate it.” So we get that cut through ourselves from that chaos to clarity, which then means, externally, our clients, our audience, our leads, we can cut through the noise and they can actually hear what it is that we’re saying. Whether that’s in a social media feed or whether we’re on stage presenting, we’re going to cut through all the noise of all the messages that we’re having in. Or if we’re having; sitting down having coffee with someone and we’re drawing some pictures on the back of a napkin, we’re going to get cut-through because our stuff is more memorable when it’s visible; when there’s visual.
ANGELA:
Yes.
RENÉE:
So that’s our cut through. The second benefit really is having our audience say, “Hell, yes,” without having to be a sleazy salesperson.
ANGELA:
Yes.
RENÉE:
And people will just; they will self-select, they will decide that, “Oh my goodness. This is amazing. I want this thing. I can see exactly what it is that you’re doing. It’s tangible. I can see how you’re going to get me from A to Z. I feel really certain that you know what it is that you’re doing.” And people who are your ideal client will say, “YES” to working with you. And conversion rates; like the conversion rates I see from my clients are just epic.
ANGELA:
So conversion rates are the benefit; yes.
RENÉE:
Yes. Totally. And the third one is results and that again is an internal and external. So we get better results for our clients; so that’s the external because it means that our clients; if we’ve got a 7-step process that’s clearly mapped out, we’ve got a better chance of them; of having that client retention all the way to the end of the process because they can see it clearly mapped ahead of them.
ANGELA:
Yes.
RENÉE:
I’ve worked with a lot of people who are coaches, for example, and the coaches know they complete the process, the client will get the result but the clients will often drop out or give up before they get to the end because they can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel. But with having everything mapped out for them, we can show them there is light at the end of the tunnel. We can point it out to them exactly where they’re up to in the process so they can see how much progress they’ve already made. And it just kind of creates this really safe container and this certainty around completion of a process to make sure that they get the result that they really want. So then, so results for clients are increased and improved.
But also, internally, in terms of being more efficient and more effective, I can create product and content super-fast and that’s the kind of results I really love inside my business. I wrote my first book in two and a half days; I wrote my second book in 48 hours and I’ve created my online course in 48 hours. And the reason I can do that is I’ve already got the intellectual property; those models are already extracted, so I’m never, ever starting with a blank screen or a blank piece of paper. I’ve got that structured there and all I have to do is flush it out and it’s done.
ANGELA:
It’s done for you. And so again, like you said, you continue; it’s not just about using it in one purpose, your signature system. It’s about using it on multiple levels across your business.
RENÉE:
Absolutely. That signature system should become the basis of everything you do in your business. If you’ve done it correctly, if you focus on your zone of genius and where you add the most value, and you’ve extracted your signature system correctly, it becomes everything for your whole business. It means that every single product in your funnel should be based on that signature system.
ANGELA:
Perfect. So how does the signature system then; I know we talked about the benefits, but how does the signature system, then, really supercharge your sales?
RENÉE:
Well, it all comes back to that conversion rate because; to give an example, one of my clients, Anna Osherov, she created her signature system. She got up; she had five minutes; she donated a door prize at a networking event. She had five minutes to get up and talk about what she does; the exchange, I guess, for donating that door prize.
ANGELA:
Yes.
RENÉE:
And five minutes, she converted 50% of the room to her half-day workshop.
ANGELA:
Right.
RENÉE:
Right. 50% conversion rate in five minutes is unheard of, right? Except for my clients because that’s the sort of results that’s just expected.
ANGELA:
Yes, because again, people can go, “Yeah. Boom. That’s where I’m at.” And sometimes again, people, if you’re at an event, too, they’re sick of hearing people’s words, right? Like, sometimes, it’s like, they already know where they are, they know what they need and then they see it and they’re like, the “Oh” moment hits on. So I can only assume that for those ladies or gentlemen in the audience that was similar, too, they’re like, “Okay, yes, this lady knows what she’s talking about. We’ve got five minutes. Let me know more about you.”
RENÉE:
Yes. Exactly. Exactly. And, got other clients; so, for example, [Inaudible 00:21:15] has 57 clients in the last financial year who signed up for her 12-month mastermind program, which is $8,000 program. So that’s some pretty good numbers that people are getting.
ANGELA:
Yes, by having that signature system in place.
RENÉE:
Yes. It’s having that signature system because it just makes it so easy for the right clients to say yes.
ANGELA:
Yes, fantastic. And then how; so for those businesses out there, do you think a signature system is more predominantly for those in service-based business or would you also use it in e-commerce business?
RENÉE:
I don’t have any proven results with people doing product-based stuff so I can’t put my hand on my heart and say it would work. But I have so much experience with the serviced-based businesses where I know that it does absolutely work. And so, definitely for a service-based business, I’m excited if someone has a product-based business and they want to have a play with me, I’m happy to have a play and let’s see if we can make it work. But I wouldn’t guarantee that it’s going to supercharge your sales in the same way that it does for service-based.
ANGELA:
So for those businesses that are out there now, listening to this particular episode about how to supercharge your sales with a signature system, how does a business create the signature system? Like, and I guess, what is it; what could they start doing now to start kind of playing with it and flushing things out?
RENÉE:
Yes. So before you actually create your signature system and the models, step one is actually all about clarity. The first thing we need to do is to clarify five things. So number one is our zone of genius. We need to actually zone in on what is the one thing that we do really, really well and the place that we add the most value. So that’s the first thing. Number two is we need to really know our niche.
ANGELA:
Yes.
RENÉE:
Be absolutely; be clear about our ideal clients. Number three is we need to know why that client will buy from us, what are their pain points, what do they really, really want? Number four is what is the result or the outcome they will absolutely pay for?
ANGELA:
Yes.
RENÉE:
And five is you actually need to be clear about your brand because we want all our visual models to be on brands in terms of the colours and the fonts and even the shapes and the corners. Because for me, my brand is passion and I’m really kind of like fiery and straight to the point, so all my shapes, the corners are always pointy corners; they’re never rounded corners because that will be off-brand for me. So branding is actually translated into the models as well. So there’s quite a lot of artistry that goes into it.
ANGELA:
Yes.
RENÉE:
Yes. That’s right. So yes, that first step is getting clear on those five things. And then step two would be, then you actually extract those four different types of models. and so, you want to take all the information you’ve heard and channel them into those four pictures that we’ve already talked about.
Then step three is then you want to need to actually use them. So I don’t want this to be something like a cerebral exercise where people do it and go, “Okay. Tick. I’ve done it.” And like, back in the old school days of business plans where we’d all write a business plan and then it would just like sit on a shelf and we’d never look at it again?
ANGELA:
Yes.
RENÉE:
I don’t want you to do that with your signature system once you’ve actually created it. Step three is we need to use it everywhere. And so, we need to make sure that we are; we’re doing speaking gigs, we’re using our speaking gigs for writing an authority book; we’re putting them into our books, we’re using them in our content marketing, we’re using them in our one-on-one conversations. Everything we do, they need to be presented and coming through everywhere so it become the go-to person and the known person for this intellectual property.
ANGELA:
And just like you said, just about that, too, you’re adding your credibility, you’re adding your authority, and I guess you’re also; as you talked about cutting through but you’re also showing, I guess, your unique point of difference with other people also.
RENÉE:
Totally. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. That’s exactly what it does.
ANGELA:
And for those people that are out there, obviously, I know, like, “Okay. Great.” The signature system, especially if you’re a service-based business is going to, you said, you’re going to be able to cut through, you’re going to get more clients saying “Hell, yes,” which is going to help with their conversions. And obviously, like you said, you’re not only going to get results for your client but you’re also going to see results in progress also for you, yourself as the business owner.
So, and those people out there that again the steps that you walked beautifully through about getting clarity, really looking at the SEXY model and implementing it everywhere. But for those people that really, like, on a bit of a hands-on person, “I got to have to see things,” I know you have a beautiful book that has come out that you just released. Can you tell us a little bit about the book because I have read the book from front to back; I actually read it when I was in Vietnam.
RENÉE:
Awesome.
ANGELA:
I wrote down two; because again, I think you said a very important point is that: You can have so many of your signature systems already in your head and you’re using them on a day-to-day basis, right? It’s just about utilizing them in a better way so that you’re again, being able to meet your client versus what; like you said, like it’s verbal vomit. We know what we know very well as service-based business owners and sometimes we can say too much or too little.
Whereas I think the visual representation, so your signature system is a beautiful way to just make everything flow and piece it all together. And not just if you’re having a discovery call, but like you said, in your content, if you are in a speaking event, etc. So I have, too. I’ve been working on my SEXY model and I’ve done the Success and the Yes model, which has been super beneficial to go through.
RENÉE:
Yey.
ANGELA:
Yes. And I’ll show you after we get off. But for those that are like; they’ve also heard you speak and that. And so, sometimes people need some extra help. So, if they wanted to purchase your book, because I think you did a really great job with executing that in the book; and if they’d like to know more about how they might just have you be able to work with them through their entire signature system, how can they meet you or work with you? Where can they find you?
RENÉE:
So the best place to go actually is shareyourpassion.com.au/freetraining. And I’ve actually got a free training there, which goes through and actually show some examples of some visual models as well, because I think, what we can’t get across in a podcast is looking at the visual models.
ANGELA:
Totally. Exactly right. Yes.
RENÉE:
The irony, hey, I’m talking about visual models. I’ve told you about auditorium podcast, right? So yes, if you want to have a look and get a bit more of an idea of what it is that we’re talking about, and that also includes a free training series on those 5 things we talked about; you need clarity on before you start the extraction and take you through step-by-step how to do that. So people can actually start moving and take action on it as well.
ANGELA:
Yes, fantastic. And your book, could they also be able to purchase your book over in your website?
RENÉE:
Yes. So the book is also on the website, shareyourpassion.com.au and just click on book.
ANGELA:
Alright, fantastic. Well, thank you so much. I can say from someone who’s heard you speak and someone who’s also worked through your book, it is; if you don’t have a signature system, utilizing visual representation of what you do you, you definitely want to hop on to Renée’s website and we will have that link in our show notes.
And I guess, before we sign off, I would just say that my team and I will also be putting together the whole transcription for this episode at angelahenderson.com.au. And of course, I cover all sorts of related business and life topics inside my Facebook community, The Australian Business Collaborative. So feel free to join us over there.
And for the rest of you, have a brilliant day and I look forward to you joining me next week for another amazing episode of the Business and Life Conversations Podcast. Thanks again for today, Renée.
RENÉE:
Thank you so much for having me, Angela.
ANGELA:
Thanks for listening to the Business and Life Conversations Podcast with Angela Henderson, Renée Hasseldine. www.angelahenderson.com.au
